Bob Moriarty: I Look At Platinum & Silver Today And I Think They Are Absurdly Cheap
Another tour de force conversation with the one and only Bob Moriarty of 321gold
July 2025 conversation with Bob Moriarty of 321gold.
Robert Sinn: All right, I'm with Bob Moriarty, founder of 321 Gold. Bob, how are you this afternoon?
Bob: I'm doing very well.
Robert Sinn: Well, let’s get into it today, I think we should start with Trump and what has happened here in the last few weeks. Let's go back to the Big Beautiful Bill which passed a few weeks ago. What are your thoughts on this Big Beautiful Bill and how this new administration appears to have walked back some of their campaign promises on deficit spending?
Bob: I think they should rename the bill. Keep the letters, call it BBB, but make it build back better bill because then people will immediately realize what a disaster it is. The last few weeks, I mean, I'm absolutely shocked. It never occurred to me that one President could make so many disastrous decisions. one after another after another. Donald Trump was elected to reduce spending. The Build Back Better bill does not reduce spending. It increases spending. The United States is on the verge of a financial collapse.
And that bill is going to make it worse. The tariffs are an utter disaster. They make it almost impossible for anyone outside the United States to do business with the United States. But the worst part is you don't know what the rules are going to be tomorrow. And instead of increasing stability, Donald Trump is increasing chaos. And I think Epstein is going to bury his administration.
Robert Sinn: So, you're referring to the Epstein List, I assume.
Bob: Well, I'm not really referring to the list because talking about the Epstein list is a misnomer. It's a deliberate misdirection on the part of the FBI to confuse the issue. We don't need a list. There are 10,000 videos. If they want to find out who the paedo files are, all I have to do is watch the videos and write down the names. Now, there's two lists that are important. Someone provided some information a few years ago. They looked into the telephone records and I didn't realize you could do that but they tracked every single person that went to Epstein's island and then they tracked them from there to where they lived and they figured out who these people were.
So there's about a thousand people who visited the island. Now, that doesn't mean by itself they're pedophiles. Okay?
However, it's an indication of something that's quite interesting. But as far as providing lists of pedophiles, we don't need a list of pedophiles. We can look at the videos. We could figure out who those people are and we could try them for criminal activity. And as far as I could tell, uh, the person who's trying hardest to avoid looking into it is probably at the top of both lists. I mean, it was amazing stuff that I didn't even know that Donald Trump was Jeffrey Epstein's best friend.
Robert Sinn: Yeah. Well, it kind of makes sense because they're both from Manhattan. They both were in the same social circles of the elite of Manhattan. and then they were in the same social circles of the elite of Palm Beach. So, it's not a surprise that the two were buddies during the 90s and the early 2000s. And frankly, I mean, technology has changed a lot in the last 30 years.
And now, a famous person could not go anywhere in public without somebody snapping a photo of them. But back in the 90s, we didn't have cell phone cameras, right? So unless they invited a reporter or a camera crew to the party, there's no pictures of the party, right?
There was one party from the early 90s where Trump was there with Epstein and they were talking and having fun and Trump is fondling some young lady in the video. That was like 1992, right? So, it's not a surprise that they may have been around each other many times during that period from let's say the early 90s to when Trump got married in 2005. And I guess they kind of cut it off there. There was a falling out that occurred probably right around that time. I read something that Trump's current wife, the first lady, may have been introduced by Epstein. I don't know if that's true, but if that is proven, it’s quite damning.
Bob: Here's what happened. There are so many things that are coming out now. Donald Trump set up a modeling agency to go to Eastern Europe and to solicit underage girls to come to the United States to become models and then he turned them over to Epstein. So, uh, you could ask yourself, what exactly does a real estate mogul have in soliciting underage young girls from Eastern Europe? I mean, I'm going to tell you that if we had the top 20 names of those who were pedophiles and we've got them on video and it was released, there would be a revolution in the United States tomorrow. This is the greatest example of total corruption. The head of the Supreme Court was a visitor. Bill Gates was a visitor.
Robert Sinn: John Roberts.
Bob: Yes. Four previous prime ministers of Israel were visitors. Okay? There were 10 or 20 Jewish oligarchs who were visitors. And here's what's interesting, and I'm not correcting you. I'm just expanding on what you said. Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were not members of the same uh social set.
Jeffrey Epstein never graduated from college. He was given a job at a prestigious school in New York City.
Robert Sinn: Dalton School. Yeah, the Dalton School. I attended a comparable private school in Manhattan and played chess with the Dalton kids. I beat them.
Bob: Exactly. And that Jewish oligarchs literally funded him and gave him hundreds of millions of dollars, including the most valuable, largest residential property in Manhattan. So, here's a guy that came from nowhere and all of a sudden he's best buddies with Donald Trump. That's spooky. And because I was in intelligence, there's absolutely no question in my mind this was a Mossad operation. It is set up to be a Mossad operation. The CIA and the FBI and MI6 have access to the data and it's extremely valuable because you can use that to blackmail people. There's a two book series put out by Whitney Webb called The United States of Blackmail and it's just a wonderful set of books, and you read this and you realize how corrupt the United States is. It's been corrupt for many years. So I don't know, but I think that Donald Trump has buried himself.
I don't think he can dig his way out of this.
Robert Sinn: Well, it'll be interesting what comes out because evidently there's going to be some, you know, release of documents from the FBI, but it's not going to be complete and it's obviously going to be cleaned up in terms of what exactly they show. And you know, just simply the fact that Trump and several of his cabinet members many times in 2024 said they would, you know, release everything about the Epstein case and they've all locked that back. That's really all you need to know. I mean, if you campaign on transparency and then once you have the power and you can actually give the transparency and you walk it back and do the opposite of transparency, then you're guilty or you're covering up for someone or some entity that's guilty. And actually going back, let's go back through history. It's interesting what you said about the blackmail. So, I wasn't clear how pervasive blackmail is in the world until the last several years when I started reading and learning about the JFK assassination, the early days of the CIA, Jay Edgar Hoover and how he operated as head of the FBI and blackmail was literally a way of life.
It's a currency to pedal power and extort favors and power from powerful people. So Jay Edgar Hoover was a homosexual. He was a closet gay man and the mafia got a huge amount of dirt on J. Edgar Hoover in the 1950s. They had spies, private investigators taking pictures of him at gay parties, including nude photos of him. And so when Hoover started going after the mafia at some point in the 1950s they made it very clear to him you don't want to do this and he stopped very quickly.
Bob: Did you get that from that book?
Robert Sinn: I got it from a few different sources but that was one of them. Yeah.
Bob: Oh, okay. Because that absolutely was in Whitney Webb's book and I read 200 books a year. That's one of the best books that I've read literally in the last 50 years. and it absolutely scared me. Now, Hoover had files on everybody in Washington, okay? And those files disappeared after his death.
But let me give you an example that I thought was bizarre. Do you happen to remember during the Obama administration where a case went to the Supreme Court and the legal issue was is Obamacare a tax or not? Now I don't remember which side was which, but basically if it was a tax it was illegal. If it was not a tax it was legal.
Robert Sinn: Right. Right.
Bob: And the interesting thing was that uh Supreme Court Justice Roberts wrote the opinion. And when I read the opinion, I thought, "This is b*******." Okay, he just made this stuff up. I mean, it was the worst legal opinion I had ever seen. And I was wondering, is he on the list? And I think he is on the list. So, you know, I highly encourage everybody to go to Amazon, put in Whitney Web, read the book, and the revolution starts next week.
Robert Sinn: John F. Kennedy hated Hoover and his brother hated Hoover and Hoover hated them. But despite when John F. Kennedy said, "I want to break the CIA into a million pieces," he didn't because Hoover and Allan Dulles had him with blackmail stuff, with all the sex he was having, all the affairs he was having with women.
And so just like the mafia had Hoover on his sex stuff, Hoover had John F. Kennedy on his sex stuff. And so this is Washington. Everybody's a sexual pervert or a pedophile and they get blackmailed and then they have to give in.
Bob: Or worse. What was the CIA's ultimate revenge on Kennedy?
Robert Sinn: Well, they had him killed.
Bob: They had him killed. Okay. I have seen what is reported to be a tape of Jeffrey Epstein living in Israel today.
And he says they've got so much information on Trump that if he doesn't do what he's told to do, Israel will kill him. I just went, "Holy s***." Okay, these guys are getting serious about this stuff. But I'll go you one better. Okay, who has access to seven terabytes of data stolen from the Mossad?
Robert Sinn: You told me that Iran stole this data, right?
Bob: Well, that's been reported. I mean, here's the problem. And to be totally candid, lots of the things that we talk about are really almost impossible to prove. They're interesting, but can you absolutely prove it? I mean, this thing of Epstein could be faked. Ghislaine Maxwell has done a video and supposedly spoken from prison and she said she would be quite happy to go in front of Congress and testify what she knows.
Robert Sinn: Bob, I heard that she's suicidal now and she may not make it.
Bob: Now that's like being a friend of Hillary Clinton Jesus Christ. If you're not suicidal as bad as you will be.
Robert Sinn: What do you think about this Trump and Powell thing? I mean, Powell is living rent free in Trump's head, and it seems that Trump just cannot go a day without making some comments about how stupid Powell is.
Bob: Well, here's the deal. Under which article of the Constitution does the president have anything to say about tariffs?
Robert Sinn: It's supposed to be Congress that deals with tariffs.
Bob: Thank you. Okay. Under which provision of the Constitution does it say the president's in charge of interest rates?
Robert Sinn: No, there's no there's nothing in the Constitution about that.
Bob: Why the f*** doesn't Donald Trump stick to his job? He's trying to get into areas he shouldn’t, and you know, people are waking up to Donald Trump. Donald Trump lies about everything. He was going to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. Well, I think it's been a little more than 24 hours. He wasn't going to start any more wars. Now we're bombing countries that have done nothing to us whatsoever. were financing genocide in Gaza. Everything that he said he was going to do, he's flip flopped. Are you good at math?
Robert Sinn: I'm not too bad.
Bob: Okay. How do you do a 720?
Robert Sinn: Uh, you make two full circles.
Bob: How do you do a 720?
Robert Sinn: Turn around until you’ve made two full circles.
Bob: I'm going to teach you how to do it.
Robert Sinn: Okay.
Bob: Okay. You do a 180 and then you do another 180 and then you do another 180 and then you do another 180 and you’ve done a 720.
Robert Sinn: All right. So, you flip flop. Flip flop. Okay, got it.
Bob: Yeah. Exactly. And I'll give you one better. Why did Netanyahu come to Washington?
Robert Sinn: Well, probably something to do with Iran, right?
Bob: Maybe. Okay, here's what's funny. Anytime a world leader comes to Washington, the last thing they do is hold a press conference and they talk about what was discussed. Netanyahu sneaks into town, has his meeting, sneaks out of town. And the interesting thing is two things happened right after that. One was, okay, we're going to bury the Epstein file. It's just a hoax. Okay, there's nothing to see here whatsoever. And the other thing was we're going to advance the war in Ukraine. Okay, that's where Trump did a 720 again.
Ukraine today is making major attacks on Russia and I would maintain that as a former combat pilot. The United States has tried to get Russia to respond so NATO can attack Russia. But Netanyahu came to town to give Donald Trump his marching orders and that's scary. I mean Netanyahu said 40 years ago that Israel owns Congress and Senate and now it's fairly obvious they own the President of the United States and some of the stuff like Powell. I don't think the Fed has the power that they believe they have and they make lots of mistakes, but I think Donald Trump is an economic illiterate and I wouldn't spend five minutes listening to him talk about economics.
Robert Sinn: Yeah, I think you just touched on an important point there with what you just said about Trump. I mean, he's not an economist. He's a real estate investor and all he knows is well if the Fed lowers the Fed funds rate then in theory my cost of capital drops. But this situation currently, if he removes Powell, and puts in a a puppet Fed Chair who cuts interest rates the opposite's going to happen, the 10-year yield the 30-year yield will rise, and the 30-year fixed rate mortgage will rise. People are losing confidence in the independence of the Fed and they're losing confidence in the dollar. So, for Trump to be jawboning like this so obsessively about the removal of a Fed chair that he appointed in 2017 is bizarre. And even by Trump's standards, this is crazy.
Bob: I'll go you one better. There is something called unintended consequences and you just raised a very valid point that the unintended consequences of jaw-boning and threatening Powell would be to increase interest rates. What did the 30-year bond close at on Friday?
Robert Sinn: I think it was around 5%.
Bob: 5.04%
Robert Sinn: Yeah.
Bob: And 5% is the magic number. But let's go into unintended consequences. If you want to seize a lot of undocumented immigrants, where is a good place to collect a bunch of them at the same time?
Robert Sinn: If you want to find a bunch of undocumented immigrants, a construction site or a fast food restaurant or something.
Bob: No, 100. I want a bunch of them
Robert Sinn: uh, a farm, a farm.
Bob: Bingo. Okay. Who do you think picks all the crops in California?
Robert Sinn: Mexicans.
Bob: When you talk about undocumented immigrants and when you go seize them, the ones that are going to be easy to catch are the guys picking the crops in the fields. And if they’re picking the crops and you deport them to Ecuador, El Salvador, anywhere else, who's going to pick the crops?
Robert Sinn: It's a real problem.
Bob: Nobody.
Robert Sinn: Yeah, we don't have the robots yet to pick the crops.
Bob: That's absolutely correct. Now, while I am dead set against what Biden pulled, okay, and Democrats brought in somewhere between 12 and 17 million, they call them undocumented immigrants. They're wetbacks, uh, and and fed them, clothe them, house them. Again, going back to uh unintended consequences, there is a gang. Now, I'm not sure which country they come from in Central America. Could be El Salvador, could be Ecuador, could be Guatemala.
I'm not sure. There is a gang who ride around on motorcycles and attack people. The United States just cut off the free benefits. Okay. So, these guys have been unleashed on New York City. We're going to see a crime wave like we have never dreamed of before. And it's one of those things that this situation was created by Biden and it's been aggravated by Trump and it's going to be a substantial problem. When you have 12 to 17 million illegals in your country and you point out that you're going to deport them as soon as you can find them, you've just created a crime problem.
Robert Sinn: Yeah.
Bob: You got 17 million terrorists
Robert Sinn: Yeah. Well, Bob, I think you're going a little far. I mean, let's take a step back. So we both agree the US needs immigrants from Central America, from South America because they do important work in the country. And I don't think Trump, you know, he's living at Mara Lago. He's a billionaire. He doesn't understand the real world in everyday America and how it functions in 2025.
Natural-born Americans don't really do hard physical labor in 2025. You know, if you go to a Holiday Inn, in Texas or in Arizona, 95% of the time your housekeeper is going to be a Latin American immigrant from Mexico or from wherever, right? And so to say that we're going to just expel these people en masse without actual deeper thought on the topic is crazy and it's actually racist in my opinion.
Bob: Absolutely. 100%. And here's what's happened. That's very important to understand. The guy that I flew with when I was flying the F4 in Vietnam, the guy in the back seat, the radar intercept operator, was a veterinarian in North Carolina. And as a side occupation, he rates Christmas trees. And all of his workers, 100% of his workers were illegals from Mexico. They would come up in the springtime. They would work during the summer. They cut the trees in November.
They would leave. They would go back to Mexico and they would come back the next spring. Okay, they were illegal, but they were not imported by Biden to be Democratic voters.
Robert Sinn: Right?
Bob: There's two absolutely separate groups. The Biden people, we were paying to fly illegals from South America into the United States and then we're giving them all kinds of benefits. Now, here's where it gets interesting. There will be no Christmas trees in the United States in two years if Trump succeeds because none of these guys who have been coming for years and years and years. And in California, they had the Bracero program where Mexicans were allowed to come into the United States to pick the crops and then go back to Mexico. So there's several different degrees of illegality, but literally, and you just raised the most important point in the world, these people were taking jobs Americans didn't want. So if you want the Christmas tree next year, you better learn how to use a chainsaw.
Robert Sinn: Yeah, there's still there's still probably a few places in the US where there are Americans who cut Christmas trees down and take them home. But yeah, I mean, you're right. A lot of the jobs, the harder jobs that are lower paying that most natural-born Americans really don't want, are filled happily by Mexican immigrants. And we should be grateful for all those hardworking people, the law-abiding people that come into the country that just want a good job to send money home to their family. I mean, God bless them.
Bob: Bingo.
Robert Sinn: They're just perfect citizens.
Bob: Bingo.
Robert Sinn: It’s the criminals that give the whole thing a bad name. And so we need to make a clear distinction between, hey, if you're here to just sell drugs and commit crime, we don't want you. We're going to get rid of you and you're not going to be able to come back in ever again. But the law-abiding ones who have been working hard paying rent and sending money home to their families, I think we should make them Americans, you know, quite frankly.
Bob: You're absolutely 100% correct and you have just hit the main point. We need to make them Americans legally. There are millions of people in the United States illegally who want to be here, who want to contribute, appreciate having jobs, and they live legally. And we should encourage that. And the best way to encourage it would be by legalizing. When we started flying people from Venezuela jails into the United States, Biden should have been impeached. Okay, that is beyond criminal.
Robert Sinn: Yeah, I agree. I just want to go back to the Powell point quickly because I think it's I think it's really important for some of your readers and some of my viewers, gold investors, if let's just give you a hypothetical. Let's say at some point in the next two months, Trump does manage to find some wrongdoing or malfeasance that Powell did with the renovations to the Fed buildings in Washington, this $2.5 billion project, and he manages to get him expelled or manages to get him to resign.
What should investors do? Where should you put your money?
Bob: Well, let me raise an important issue. When does Powell’s tenure end?
Robert Sinn: Mid 2026
Bob: Why are we bothering now? What possible difference does it make?
Robert Sinn: It's Trump.
Bob: Yeah, if you can't dazzle with brilliance, baffle them with b*******. Uh, strange enough if you look at the global picture, if Donald Trump is doing things that are going to have an exceptionally negative impact on the dollar, what should you do? And the answer, I think, is simple. You should invest in resources, very real, tangible assets, preferably that you could put your hands on. I think we are going into a perfect storm that's going to surprise everyone. Okay. What's the cheapest you ever paid for gold?
Robert Sinn: $330 an ounce.
Bob: Okay. Really?
Robert Sinn: Yeah.
Bob: I was telling people to buy it when it was $280 an ounce. Okay. Ask me what the cheapest I paid for gold.
Robert Sinn: What's the cheapest that you ever paid for gold?
Bob: 35 bucks an ounce.
Robert Sinn: Wow.
Bob: So I look at $3500 gold and think, "Wow, that's incredible." Okay, that's a hundredfold increase. Now, strangely enough, for the same reason going back to 1968 through 1971 or so, I saw the government doing things that were very bad for the dollar. And I believe that that would be good for gold, but I never imagined a hundredfold increase. I mean, that's just simply remarkable. And strangely enough, I look at the price of silver today. I'd look at the price of platinum today and say those prices are absurd. They're so cheap.
Robert Sinn: So, physical hard assets, natural resources. So, let's talk about the sentiment right now. Like, okay, we've had a bit of a transition in the precious metal sector in the last couple months.
So, gold peaked at $3509 in April. It has been consolidating for the last three months. It's actually very healthy. Uh pulled back, pulled back to $3,200. We're $3350ish right now. Silver then shot up above $35. It's now $38 or or so. And then platinum broke out finally after spending like four years ping-ponging between $900 and $1100. What's your take on the sentiment in the metals and what's your take on where we're at in this precious metals bull cycle?
Bob: Have you ever gone to a baseball game?
Robert Sinn: Yeah.
Bob: What's the first thing they do?
Robert Sinn: Throw out the first pitch.
Bob: Nope. Before that.
Robert Sinn: National anthem.
Bob: Thank you. We're in the last notes of playing the national anthem. Okay, this is going to be a rally that is going to shock everyone including you and me. Okay, we are doing things that are going to guarantee the demise of the dollar. Now, let me raise an important point. I'm not sure you and I have talked about it.
Did you see what Chairman Xi said last week about BRICS and about the US debt based system?
Robert Sinn: No, I did not actually.
Bob: Okay, I'm going to read this to you because it's so bloody important. Okay, this is Chairman Xi.
Robert Sinn: been pretty quiet in the last few months from my perch. I feel like they've just been waiting as Trump makes more mistakes.
Bob: There's a very famous saying, if your enemies are making mistakes, leave him alone.
Robert Sinn: Yeah.
Bob: Something is happening because there were comments from both China and from the Russians last week. Now I'm quoting from President Xi “China and Russia are not building an alliance. We are building a new global reality. The West must either adapt or disappear.” He went on to say, "The West wants others to live in perpetual poverty so their banks remain rich. We do not seek to rule the world only to liberate it from those who believe they own it."
Wow.
We have talked before about the the massive conflict between the debt based system of the west and resource based system of the east and both Russia and China came out with absolute comments last week saying they are well aware of it and they don't look at it as pal they don't look at it as gold they don't look at it as the Epstein file they look at it as this glob global conflict between the debt based system of the west and the resource based system of the east. Now my contention is that the debt based system of the west is in a state of collapse and bricks are going to end up ruling the world. Okay? Because we have destroyed it. If you want to see what's going to happen next with Trump, all you have to do is go back and reread the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. Some of the things that Trump does literally goes back to what the Romans were doing in 2003 AD. Some of the things Israel is doing like uh warfare by assassination. What? You have to be pretty corrupt to fight wars by assassinating people.
I can prove to you through facts and logic that Trump did not know Israel was going to attack Iran on the 13th of June.
Robert Sinn: How can you do that?
Bob: Okay. Who is he negotiating with?
Robert Sinn: He was negotiating with the Iranian delegation, their ambassador, right?
Bob: Exactly. And who did Israel assassinate?
Robert Sinn: A lot of people, a lot of people
Bob: Who did Israel assassinate that Trump was negotiating for peace?
Robert Sinn: Their foreign minister.
Bob: Israel assassinated the guy that Trump was supposed to have meetings with two days later.
Robert Sinn: Okay.
Bob: You just don't do that. If you're negotiating with people, you're going to assassinate them. So I believe that Trump was taken off guard. He knew Israel was going to attack Iran, but he didn't know the timing because I mean that's really bad optics when you start assassinating the guy that you're negotiating with.
Robert Sinn: Well, it begs a question, the state of Israel would pretty much either not exist or exist in a much different form than it is here in 2025 without the unconditional support of the US and all the weapons and money that the US has shipped over there over the last 50 years.
So for the president of the United States to not know when Israel is going to attack Iran, when there are peace talks ongoing is shocking to start with. And then the fact that once this conflict starts, like once there's a war, I mean, it was a war. I mean, Iran is firing hundreds of, you know, missiles and drones and Israel is bombing the living s*** out of all these bases and like key infrastructure of the, you know, regime. So, it was a war. It was a three or four week war. And then Trump says, "Okay, we've got to finish the job. We can't allow this to end without hitting um, you know, these three different installations that are the most, you know, the most worrying uh, in terms of the potential to build nukes. That's also kind of crazy. It's so basically the leader of the free world, the most powerful man in the world is playing second fiddle to the president of another country.
And once that country gets into a conflict, the US doesn't have a choice. It's a very strange situation.
Bob: It's to the best of my knowledge and I do read a lot of books. It's unparalleled in history. I can think of no situation in world history where a tiny, almost meaningless country of 9 million people could control the richest and most powerful country in the world. There's something very bizarre. But we talk about Israel, an ally of the United States. I was in the military in 1967 when Israel attacked the USS Liberty deliberately and killed 34 American sailors and wounded 117 more. It was a deliberate act of mass murder. It was the biggest naval disaster in US history and the US covered it up. I do not confuse Israel as an ally. Israel is a parasite. It's not an ally.
Robert Sinn: And who was the president in 1967, Bob?
Bob: Lyndon Johnson.
Robert Sinn: Lyndon Johnson, the most corrupt of the most corrupt President in history.
Bob: Well, you're probably saying that because you think he killed his sister.
Robert Sinn: He may have killed his sister. He killed a few other people in Texas, including being involved in the assassination of a President.
Bob: Okay. I don't remember the guy's name. You're younger, so you should have a better memory. Lyndon Johnson had his own personal assassin.
Robert Sinn: Yeah
Bob: The guy left his thumbprint on the rifle that was found in the Texas School Book Depository.
Robert Sinn: His assassin was named Mac Wallace.
Bob: Right. Somehow Mac got his thumb print on the butt of of the rifle.
Robert Sinn: No, Bob, he was just, you know, looking at school books. He needed to get some school books out of there.
Bob: No, tell me. Come on. He was a janitor. They don't give a s*** about the school books. He was sweeping the floor. He had to move the rifle. It was in the way.
Robert Sinn: Oh man. Yeah, so the most interesting thing about November 22nd, 1963 in Dallas, Texas, it's not who was involved. It was obviously a conspiracy of actors including the CIA, the mafia, and some down home Texas boys who were associated with LBJ. But it’s actually very difficult to figure out who the actual shooters were because there were four or five shooters. It's quite possible that Mac Wallace was one of them. Um, and probably the shooter from the Grassy Knoll was wearing a Dallas PD uniform.
There were also several men who flashed fake Secret Service badges to real Dallas PD officers when confronted in Dealey Plaza. It was a highly suspicious deep state operation that was covered up for the last sixty years.
Mac Wallace died eight years later when his car abruptly ran off the road and crashed into a bridge abutment in a small Texas town. The investigating officers noted that road conditions were perfect that day, and it happened in broad daylight. He may have buried one of the greatest secrets in American history, just like Lee Harvey Oswald did just two days after JFK was assassinated.
It’s clear to me that Oswald knew too much, but did not pull a trigger that day in Dallas. He was the patsy set up by the CIA.
Bob: Where were you on November 21st, 1963?
Robert Sinn: I wasn't alive yet.
Bob: No s***. Damn. Okay, ask me where I was.
Robert Sinn: Where were you on November 21st, 1963?
Bob: I was standing over an overpass watching the presidential limousine pass underneath. Kennedy flew into Carswell Air Force Base and he took a series of limousines and police cars into downtown Fort Worth and he spent the night in Fort Worth.
Robert Sinn: That's right.
Bob: Prior to flying to Dallas. I saw Kennedy the night before he was killed. I mean that that was very traumatic and it has literally taken 60 years for a lot of this information to come out because the government did such a great job of covering it up that there were so many people who were dirty. You know, I'll give you one that's even better. What did J.D. Tippit have in common with Kennedy?
Robert Sinn: Yeah, they looked similar.
Bob: Bingo. They were dead ringers for each other.
Robert Sinn: Yeah.
Bob: Okay, there's so much bizarre stuff. Remember the Zapruder film?
Robert Sinn: Yes.
Bob: It was edited.
Robert Sinn: Yeah, it was edited the weekend after the assassination. They sent it to Rochester, New York to Eastman Kodak to have it edited and it was edited by a team of photo experts at Kodak in Rochester. I mean from the autopsy to the Zapruder Film, to the J.D. Tippit killing…. It was a conspiracy all over the place.
There's a thought that Tippet was supposed to kill Oswald but there was an Oswald double, so there was a fake Oswald that was probably one of the shooters. And the thought is that Tippet was supposed to kill the real Oswald and then he would be hailed a hero for getting the assassin, but instead he stopped the fake Oswald. And the fake Oswald realized that this cop was going to try to shoot him.
So the fake Oswald, who was an anti-Castro Cuban, actually killed him first.
Dead men don’t tell secrets, and there were a lot of dead men that popped up in the fifteen years following November 22nd, 1963.
Bob: I don't buy that because I think JD Tippit ended up being the guy they did the autopsy on.
Robert Sinn: Okay.
Bob: For it to be a coincidence that he was a dead ringer means that that's an important part of the story. But I mean the crazy thing is and Whitney Webb's book really woke me up to it. You know, I was 17 years old back then. It never occurred to me that we were totally corrupt. I entered into the Marine Corps nine months later, okay? And I believed everything we were told. I go to Vietnam and I shoot at people who are not not our enemies because I thought I was fighting for the United States. And somebody finally said, you know, when did they attack the United States? I said, well, damn. I don't know.
Robert Sinn: Is your experience in the Vietnam War what sort of turned you, as I wouldn't say that you're anti-American, but you're a skeptic of America?
Is your experience as a Vietnam Vet what made you start asking a lot more questions about the US and the deep state?
Bob: Absolutely. And I am not anti-American. I'm very pro-American. However, I recognize and I hate to say it. This Epstein thing is not going to fade away, and it is as close to perfect that our entire system is corrupt. Now, here's what's going to happen. There's going to be some guy in the CIA or in the FBI or in Iran who's going to start releasing videos. There's too many people involved in covering this up and they're not going to be able to cover it up.
Trump and his nonsense of calling it a hoax. Okay, what's a hoax? The 200 girls that were molested or the 10,000 hours of videos?
Robert Sinn: Yeah, his tweets are becoming more and more unhinged. Yeah. It's not 1963, right? Like the government could cover that up because there was so little technology and they had all the power to control the narrative.
It's so much harder now in 2025. It's just impossible to cover up a scandal of that magnitude.
Bob: I'm not sure that's true. What about covid? It was 100% fraud. It's the biggest medical fraud in world history. They got away with that. And I'm seeing friends of mine who were showing the damages from the shots and I was saying all along it's fake. Okay, this doesn't exist and the shots are poison. And now it's turning out to be true.
There there is a group operating behind the scenes who want to destroy the world's economy. And I think the Chinese and the Russians see it and they're going to watch and allow the debt based system of the West to collapse.
Robert Sinn: Let's talk about junior mining before we wrap it up. So, um it's been a good summer so far for the junior mining sector. It's not sell in May and go away like it often is. What's your take on the juniors here? And are there any specific stocks that really have your eye?
Bob: I I will say everybody in the Tombstone belt and that would be Rackla (TSX-V:RAK), that would be Trifecta (TSX-V:TG), that would be Snowline (TSX-V:SGD), that would be Sitka (TSX-V:SIG), that would be Banyan (TSX-V:BYN). That's going to be the big news of this year and next year. But I’ve got a lot of stocks that are up 50% in the last month or two. Platinum is up 50% in the last two months. Silver is up substantially. We are going to go into a golden age of investing.
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The fact that so many juniors have been successful in raising money. Somebody came to me and and they're in Keno Hill (Yukon) and they've got an area that they've drilled and they know they've got a lot of high-grade silver veins and they talked to me about what they had and they wanted to advertise and I said, "Look guys, I mean this story is so simple. You just have to tell the story. This is too easy." and the CEO of the company said, you know, well, that's why we're talking to you. They hadn't done anything in years because they didn't get any appreciation when they did.
And there are dozens and dozens of companies now doing extraordinary things. They've been sitting on projects and they're putting money into the ground. And frankly, and one thing I think Trump is doing right is he recognizes the government needs to get involved in helping junior mining companies at that big copper project in Arizona that we've talked about.
Robert Sinn: Resolution.
Bob: That's going to go into production. That's been held up for 30 years, which is total b*******. We need copper. We need mining. And we need the income to the government.
Robert Sinn: I agree with you on the Yukon and the Tombstone Gold Belt. Banyan recently published a new resource estimate that was fantastic. And Sitka just keeps hitting. Sitka has the RC Gold Project, which is basically this large intrusive complex where you have all these reduced intrusion related gold deposits (RIRGS) that have formed in a cluster. Similar to a cluster of porphyry copper-gold deposits.
I believe Sitka has something pretty special there. When a company has that kind of hit rate where almost every hole they drill is 100, 200, 300 meters of 1+ g/t gold that’s pretty special, right?
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Another one to keep an eye on in the Yukon is Yukon Metals (CSE:YMC), they are in the midst of their first ever drill program at the AZ Copper Porphyry Project in the Yukon. You may have discussed this one with Quinton Hennigh before. It’s interesting because all of the Yukon Metals projects were staked by the same family that created Snowline Gold, the Berdahl Family.
On the bright side, Trump 2.0 has definitely given the US hard rock mining industry some clear tailwinds here and I really like the state of Arizona for mining. It's basically been the copper mining state in the US for 20+ years. However, just because of the regulatory burden and the permitting timelines, a lot of projects have been moth-balled over the last 20 or 30 years. So now there's an opportunity for more exploration to happen and for some of those projects that have been drilled and have a resource to actually move forward. And then in Idaho, you see the hat I'm wearing. Something very special is unfolding there in Idaho. And I think we're going to have some very exciting next few months here with news out of some of those companies in that area.
Western Idaho is a completely new porphyry copper belt. Again, the state of Idaho kind of went dormant with Bill Clinton basically killing the whole mining industry during the 1990s and it never came back. Now here it is, a reawakening of sorts. The stars are aligning. So there are a lot of good projects in these states out west that basically haven't had any progress for 30, 40, 50 years. And now there's a reawakening happening.
Bob: Well, Rick Rule comes out with an interesting number and it's his number, so I can't tell you if it's accurate or not, but he says the average market cap of mining stocks compared to all stocks is 3%, and right now it's .5% and I think in 1929 it was 28%. Mining used to be a big part of the US economy and it's been a total disaster and we are in the early stages and you're going to see a lot of companies explode higher. Now, do you follow Rackla?
Robert Sinn: A lot of people have mentioned Rackla to me. I've seen the chart. I've seen some of the news, but I don't own it.
Bob: Okay. I was buying Rackla in January between $.08 and $.12, It's $.60 now
Robert Sinn: Good job
Bob: These are literally retirement making stocks. There are so many opportunities. You do not have to wait until the guy behind you at the grocery store starts talking about how much money he's made in the tombstone gold belt. Uh the opportunity is now, but you've got to do something now.
Robert Sinn: Bob, if I'm standing in line at Publix in Fort Lauderdale and the guy behind me starts talking about Rackla or Sitka Gold, yeah, that's going to be a sell signal for me.
Bob: Well, when you go to the nearest phone, okay, to call your broker and tell them to sell, you're not going to be able to get on the phone.
Robert Sinn: Why is that?
Bob: I'm going to be using it.
Robert Sinn: Uh, okay. Final question. This is a tough one, but be a good sport. You got a 12-month time horizon. There's three different metals you can buy. You could buy gold, you could buy silver, or you can buy platinum. Which one do you buy today?
Bob: Silver. you're familiar with my books. I always say buy what 's cheapest. Okay. And in relative terms, silver is the cheapest metal.
Robert Sinn: All right. Very good. Thank you, Bob.
Bob: It's been a pleasure. I think this was excellent.
Robert Sinn: Yeah, it was a good one.
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